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mourishin Cleaner
Posts : 556 Points : 7068 Reputation : 20 Joined date : 2010-11-24 Location : the tenth's side Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:28 pm | |
| the beelzebub rawi think being light on the denoise has been really helpful in keeping the fine lines.. but it makes T. clean more difficult >.< totally know what you mean with those tree branches XD i've been using that and the soda machine as guides |
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mourishin Cleaner
Posts : 556 Points : 7068 Reputation : 20 Joined date : 2010-11-24 Location : the tenth's side Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:05 am | |
| that beelzebub pic the settingsi like: the coke machine and the shadows on Oga. the contrast on the sky and branches not so like: the buildings in the back went away again, the ppl are blurry and there's a weird texture to the clouds =\ and i guess i need to burn the text and dark branches? |
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HeiDenReX Cleaner
Posts : 1190 Points : 10303 Reputation : 31 Joined date : 2010-10-25 Age : 31 Location : Philippines Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:05 am | |
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Dark King Editor
Posts : 1982 Points : 14460 Reputation : 87 Joined date : 2010-09-16 Location : Where time Stands still Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:55 am | |
| Those were some clean greys heid but your page is also too blurry
Hi mourishin Im Dk i also had to do Beelzwbub as a test to get in don't give up it is hard but once you get it you'll be a beast XD so here is jsut some suggestions
It was a good page you are really startng to get it the only thiong i cans say clean up the whites there is dust in them other than that thats was a decent page for a beginner Ur starting to get it the page wawsn't to blurry and your greys were at the least clean though not quite uniform. AS you get better the greys will get better bu good job just clean up your whites
edit: the problem was your lvling you didn't lvl the whites enough. I think i may know why as well. If you focused on the greys you may have inadvertent ly forgot the whites. when you lvl whiten the whites first then black then the middle slider is to lvl the grey wich sould be done last to get the best effect if you did that right you would have a decent page |
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Qasz Editor
Posts : 463 Points : 12612 Reputation : 166 Joined date : 2010-10-04 Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:09 am | |
| @heid, your page is actually underleveled (there is gray where there should be white). And it looks like you over denoised it because it's all blurry (or it could be T.Clean's fault).
@mourishin Better! Do you see how you get that pattern in the sky? That's what we want (so it's not weird!) but we want smaller squares. I would say you over denoised a bit. There are some blurry parts, the worst is in the bushes. You could probably turn down the 'Clean' setting and turn up the 'Recover Details' setting, as well as reducing the 'Suppression' setting a bit.
As for T.Clean I would decrease the 'Size' and increase the 'Boost' Settings under 'Texture.' That way you'll get smaller squares (a 'size' of 3.43 is huge, I rarely go above 1.5).
To keep the buildings in the back from going away try lowering the 'Threshold' and 'Radius' settings under 'Strength' in T.Clean. Those two settings determines how much of the page T.Clean evens out. When I've been cleaning I've seen T.Clean eat up some of my details too. And you're right, you do need to burn any blacks that aren't actually black. And you would need to get rid of that gray blob on the left edge if this were a real release. |
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HeiDenReX Cleaner
Posts : 1190 Points : 10303 Reputation : 31 Joined date : 2010-10-25 Age : 31 Location : Philippines Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:14 am | |
| bah it's because the raw he gave is not an HQ and it's not a preclean itself, the height is lower than 3000px and the resolution were 72 already right from the start and qasz, the black is just overleveled, grays scattered in the page that's why it looked like that, i didn't bother to clean the page perfectly tho edit: my bad it seems you're right quasz, the whites were underleveled, here's the fixed one https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img15/4862/beelzebub.jpg |
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Dark King Editor
Posts : 1982 Points : 14460 Reputation : 87 Joined date : 2010-09-16 Location : Where time Stands still Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:44 am | |
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mourishin Cleaner
Posts : 556 Points : 7068 Reputation : 20 Joined date : 2010-11-24 Location : the tenth's side Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:21 am | |
| wheee!! lots to play with XD heidenrex: i use that same raw from scratch each time, never resize until just before i clean about yours - the map is gone! D= i became really conscious of that as i was T. cleaning. Ur sky is pretty. i thought about trying to work with the sky sep from the rest of the page.. bad idea?
Dk: my only problem with those whites is if i level the whites where i'm happy with the clouds or the border, ALL the details are just gone XD I do go in white-black-gray order but nothing seems to save this page so i end up going darker on the whites.. and i try everything with the gray level cuz i want Oga to be kinda dark ( he's in the shade, right? XD ) but those buildings in the back go away if i have the contrast i like >.< on my other bbubs that have pretty clouds or borders, it's all fake XD ( i dodged or erased it.. ^^; ) i left this one as is with no dodge or burn so i could get feeedback on the levels. they're driving me nuts on this one XD
Quaz: i'm gonna put in ur changes and see how it goes XD |
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HeiDenReX Cleaner
Posts : 1190 Points : 10303 Reputation : 31 Joined date : 2010-10-25 Age : 31 Location : Philippines Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:25 am | |
| with all the cleaner here giving you feedbacks, i will be surprised if you not pass this test |
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mourishin Cleaner
Posts : 556 Points : 7068 Reputation : 20 Joined date : 2010-11-24 Location : the tenth's side Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:21 am | |
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Dark King Editor
Posts : 1982 Points : 14460 Reputation : 87 Joined date : 2010-09-16 Location : Where time Stands still Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:03 pm | |
| sexy clean kiba make him a trainee he's ready |
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mourishin Cleaner
Posts : 556 Points : 7068 Reputation : 20 Joined date : 2010-11-24 Location : the tenth's side Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:18 pm | |
| wait wait Dk XD lets see how i do on my own first =p i picked this one just for those grays that i've been trying to figure out ^^;; no dodge or burn, resized once after denoise but before clean psyren 141 p 14 psyren 141 p 14 settingsomg those light streaks on these pages kill me XD |
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Kiba Administrator
Posts : 2185 Points : 14437 Reputation : 327 Joined date : 2010-07-17 Location : Dunno... I'm lost :( Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:30 pm | |
| Almost there! You are not ready to clean anything for a real release yet, but your improvement and commitment shall be rewarded. Congratulations, you are on the team :3 But I will require you to create a thread in the Training section (in the Staff subforums). When you get the green light, then yeah, you will finally be able to clean things for real releases |
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bajuwa Translator
Posts : 954 Points : 8537 Reputation : 109 Joined date : 2010-11-07 Age : 33 Location : The baj Cave in Muda Forest~ Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| w00t congratz and welcome to the team! hope you training goes well and hope to see your future projects ^^~ |
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Millos Assailant Translator
Posts : 402 Points : 6962 Reputation : 52 Joined date : 2010-11-08 Age : 36 Location : Miami - FL - USA Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:41 pm | |
| Hey mourishin! Let me be the third to welcome you to this spectacular team which is Muda. Hope you kick ass in your future endeavors. |
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Robler Redrawer
Posts : 835 Points : 8286 Reputation : 127 Joined date : 2010-09-19 Age : 29 Location : Stockholm Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:54 am | |
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B-one Lucky Ducky
Posts : 547 Points : 7911 Reputation : 110 Joined date : 2010-07-24 Location : canada Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:40 pm | |
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Robler Redrawer
Posts : 835 Points : 8286 Reputation : 127 Joined date : 2010-09-19 Age : 29 Location : Stockholm Awards :
| Subject: Re: Application for cleaner Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:33 pm | |
| hm, i can feel a copycat above me... changing "the" to "ze", such and cheap trick >.< |
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